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OS GEMEOS | GRAFFITI
Q: The name
of your show right now in s.f. is"PAVIL" (which is the fuse
of a firework) you guys are obsessed with firworks, when i was 8 i exploded
one in my hand and lost a layer on the inside of my hand, sometimes I
see your characters pointing fireworks at their faces or covering their
faces, what is the worst accident you had with fireworks? and what do
the hidden faces represent?
OSGEMEOS : Não somos
obsessed por fireworks, nós gostavamos de brincar com fireworks
quando éramos crianças, e acho que isso combina muito com
a fase que estamos agora em relaçao a trabalhos em galeria. Nós
nunca tivemos acidentes com isso, apenas gostavamos de queimar e explodir
nossos brinquedos, mais novo melhor... hidden faces?... para se esconder.
: We're not obsessed by fireworks, we liked to play with them when we
were kids and we think they go along very well with the current phase
we are in right now regarding gallery works.
Q: Your trademark colors are yellow and red, my friend says it
makes them look like the SIMPSONS on crack, what do you think about that?
Do you watch cartoons? And read books and comics?
OSGEMEOS : É melhor
o seu amigo assistir mais Simpsons. Cartoons? as vezes, quanto mais independente
e alternativo, nada famozo e popular! nada patriota, e que usam bichinhos
estupidos e pessoas cantando estupidas pra manipular as crianças
: We watch independent, alternative cartoons once in a while. Nothing
famous, popular, patriotic, or that use stupid and cute animals to stimulate
children to consume.
Q: Can you guys breakdance?or do capoeira?
OSGEMEOS : Não, jogamos
OSGEMEOS : No, we play soccer.
Q: Whats your favorite music? Do you like sepultura(its one of my favorite
OSGEMEOS : Musica?, nos
gostamos de várias coisas, acho que ultimamente, ouvimos mais musica
popular brasileira, como "repente", forro, baião, musica
mineira, algumas bandas alternativas, as vezes escutamos rap nacional,
depende do dia, as vezes nao gostamos de escutar nada, Sepultura? o que
OSGEMEOS : Music? We like
a lot of different things. Lately we've been listening to popular braziian
music, regional stuff, like: "repente", "forro", "baião",
some alternative bands, some brazilian rap, depends on our mood, sometimes
we don't like to listen to anything. Sepultura? what's that?
Q: What are your favorite foods? Do you
cook at home? Or eat out at fast food places? Are you vegetarian?
OS GÊMEOS : Comida
Favorita? Arroz e feijão!!, comida brasileira é a melhor
para nos, nós gostamos de cozinhar sim, em casa sempre cozinhamos,
preferimos comer em casa do que comer fora, não somos vegetarianos,
mas as vezes ficamos um tempo sem comer carne.
OS GÊMEOS :Favorite
Food? Rice and beans! We love brazilian food, and we enjoy cooking. We
always cook at home, we prefer to do so than to eat out. We aren't vegetarians,
but we often stay long periods without eating meat.
Q: How many brothers
and sisters do you have? What is it like in your family growing up? Are
your parents artistic do they support you?
:Temos mais um irmão (Arnaldo)e uma irmã (Adriana), mais
velhos que nos, eles são muito especiais para nós, devemos
muita coisa a eles, quando éramos crianças, nosso irmão
por exemplo nos encinava a desenhar, nos mostrava como fazer pespectivas
..., e ele sempre estava desenhando, agente olhava os desenhos dele e
queria fazer igual, nossa irmã não lida com arte, mais tem
um enorme talento para os negócios dela, ela sempre esteve ao nosso
lado e sempre acessorando quando agente precisa de algo. Achamos que nossa
familia é o maior incentivo para nossa arte, nossa mãe,
nosso pai, irmãos, avós, tios, esposa, sempre insentivaram
nos a estar desenhando, pintando...,brincando, nos gostavamos de pegar
os brinquedos que nossos pais nos dava, desmontava e recriava de forma
que nos agradasse, e que ficasse de acordo com o nosso estilo de brincadeira,
era muito divertido... nós os amamos sempre...
OSGEMEOS: We have one older
brother (Arnaldo) and an older sister (Adriana), they are really special
to us and we owe much to them When we were kids our older brother taught
us how to draw, showed us things like perspective, and he would always
be drawing. We'd watch him and try to draw like he did. Our older sister
doesn't work with art, but has enourmous business talent and has always
been on our side whenever we needed something. We think our family is
our biggest supporter, our mom, dad, brothers, grandparents, aunts and
uncles, wife, have always pushed us to draw, paint, play, we liked to
take our toys apart and put them back together in a manner that pleased
us, it was a lot of fun. We will always love them...
Q: Barry McGee took
a trip to SAO Paulo in 1993 and you guys both inspired each other to new
levels, a few years back EMUSE from the bay area took a similar journey,
I know many graf artists would love to go to sao Paulo to paint with OS
GEMEOS, it's sort of like Mecca for grafitti writers, you guys are like
the prophets at the end of the road, do you paint with everyone who comes
to seek you, or do you tell some to fuck off if they are whack? What do
you have to say to all the graf writers and artists out there.Do you want
them to keep coming or stop coming?
OSGEMEOS : Barry e Emuse,
são grandes amigos. Pintamos com quem nos sente bem de pintar,
Acho que isso é relativo, as vezes preferimos pintar sozinhos,
as vezes com amigos, e as vezes com pessoas diferentes e novas, quem é
nós pra dizer pra vim ou nao vim a São Paulo....?
: Barry and Emuse are great friends. We paint with people we feel good
about. Sometimes we prefer to paint on our own, at other times with our
friends and different and new people, it varies. Who are we to say who
should come to São Paulo?
I know you guys do a lot of work in alleyways and crackhouses in the cracks
of society , that no one goes to except junkies and homeless, as well
as when you do installations in galleries you make people crawl through
tiny holes to see some of the works , do you do this so it's like a game?
Like a scavenger hunt? And you reward them?
Q: You guys are
28 , sponsored and getting grants to travel the world , Bombing the streets
worldwide, and galleries, and giving lectures meeting Tons of people,
it must get lonely. Do you guys have girlfriends? Do you guys go after
the same kind of girls? And do girls go after the both of you? Do also
have girlfriends in different parts of the world(ho's in different area
OSGEMEOS : Eu sou casado.
(Otávio) Eu estou sozinho (Gustavo)
: I'm married. (Otávio). I am alone.(Gustavo)
Q: I've seen dope pieces you guys have done
with Herbert and female write Nina (and two more other that i cant remember
) it looks like you got a solid very talented crew in brazil, do you like
painting with them, or just by yourselves, do they ever tour with you?And
also do you ever paint just by yourself without one another?
: Herbert ele tem um trabalho muito bom ele é muito talentoso é
um grande amigo, NINA, é a esposa de meu irmão, ela tem
um trabalho muito original e criativo, e sempre esta produzindo coisas
novas. Aqui em Sao Paulo existe muitos artistas bons e originais, estilos
totalmente originais, as vezes preferiamos pintar sozinhos, e as vezes
com escritores da mesma turma : MM`S, SA , AG , São Paulo, DVE
de Santiago do Chile , as vezes tambem pintamos com outras turmas, e outros
: Herbert has very nice work, he is very talented and is a great friend.
Nina is my brother's wife, she does very original and creative work, and
is always working on new things. Here in Sao Paulo there are a lot of
creative artists doing original styles. Sometimes we prefer to paint on
our own, sometimes with writers from the same crew: MM'S, SA, AG, SAO
PAULO, DVE (Santiago, Chile), sometimes we'll paint with other crews and
other writers too.
Q: I know you guys like to dress
up like cityworkers and paint in the daytime. But from time to time you
still get fucked with cops, how does the government in brazil deal with
GÊMEOS : Isso é como um jogo, aqui é
bem relativo, voce pode pintar de dia ou de noite, mais tudo depende do
objetivo e resultado que voce quer atingir.
OS GÊMEOS : That is
like a game, here things are very relative, you may paint in the daytime
or at night, it depends on the objective and the results you are trying
Q: Exposure to graf in brazil has been pretty
limited over the years, so out of that brazil has has sort of devloped
it's own style, latex, tar,giant stamps, huge rollers, brush tags, stencils,
as well as straight up graf, also it seems like everyone gives each other
room to paint and don't paint over each others work, so when I see pictures
of brazil it looks like the entire city's been bombed by an artbomb. Is
this the desired result you are trying to achieve worldwide?
: Para nos o graffiti brasileiro e o que gostamos realmente de ver e de
fazer parte dessa historia. A cidade de Sao Paulo é dos escritores,
existe muito respeito entre os escritores de graffiti, a diferença
de estilos e os objetivos de se superar entre os pixadores é o
que moviva o graffiti aqui esta vivo. O mundo fora do graffiti, a população
que vai "ao parque", aqui é que não dorme com
tanta tinta nas ruas.
: For us, brazilian graffiti is what we really like to see and to be part
of. The city of São Paulo belongs to the writers there is much
respect among them and their different styles. The objective of outdoing
the the other is a motivating force. The world outside graffiti, the people
who go to parks, can't sleep with so much paint on the streets.
Q: I notice barry mcgee starting
to use orange fluorescent paint in his works,and I see you guys love using
the fluorescents, do you guys share paints?What are your favorite colors?
: Nos ja vimos muita gente usando tinta fluorescent, acho isso normal,a
nossa cor favorita e amarelo e vermelho escuro!
OSGEMEOS : We've seen a
LOT of people using fluorescent paint, we think its normal. Our favorite
color is yellow and dark red.
Q: Do you think you will ever do
a childrens story book?
: Talvez, se um dia agente sentir de fazer, agente faz, trabalhar para
crianças é uma coisa muito legal e gratificante de fazer...
: Maybe, if we feel like it, we might do one. Working with kids is very
cool and very rewarding....
Q: Do you guys like
guns and violence,your work seems very folk/chidrens book inspired with
A silly, funny,nonsense, playfulness to it, is that what inspires you?
What do you believe in? What inspires you? What are some of your favorite
things? And things to do?
: Nós não gostamos de armas, violencia, e nem guerra. o
que agente acredita? ...Nos acreditamos em Deus. Inspiração?,
acho que o simples fato de estar vivo, e de poder ver, sentir ,ouvir,
amar, chorar, tocar... tudo... tudo é uma fonte de inspiração,
muita das vezes as coisas mais simples da vida e de nosso cotidiano. Favorite?
OSGEMEOS : We don't believe
in weapons, violence, or war. We belive in god. Inspiration? Being alive,
being able to see, feel, hear, touch, love, cry, everything. Everything
is a source of inspiration sometimes the simplest things in our lives.
Favorite? playing soccer.
Q: Have you been
to asia yet? Do you like robots? Can you guys draw me a robot?
: Não fomos para asia ainda, tem robo la?
: We haven't been to Asia yet. Are there robots there?
Q: Do you guys watch
OSGEMEOS : Só quando
tem algo estúpido pra ver, como fazer Guerra por Óleo, sencionalismo,
mas mesmo assim agente não acredita nela, e nem em jornal, ilude
e manipula as pessoas facil!
OSGEMEOS : Only when there
is something stupid to watch, like war over oil, sensationalism, etc,
but we don't believe what we see on TV or read in the newspaper, media
manipulates people easily.
Q: Do you drive
or do you like to ride bikes? How do you get around when you are painting?
: Nós andamos
: We walk.
Q: You guys seem
very very productive, what is the motivating force in your life, there
are two twins in san jose who make huge full scale TRANSFORMERS out of
cardboard boxes, together, but you can tell one brother is way more into
it than the other, and he almost forces the other brother to create. Is
it like that with you guys? Do you ever fight over women? Art? Food? ideas?
Are their rivalries?
OSGEMEOS : Nos respeitamos
muito um ao outro, e seguimos o memso caminho
OSGEMEOS : We respect each
other a lot and we follow the same path.
Q: Are you guys funny or serious?
OSGEMEOS: a gente nao sabe
: We don't know who we are.
What do you want to do ten years from now?
OSGEMEOS : Não sei,
a gente se preoculpa com o "hoje".
: We don't know. We worry about today.
Who deserves to die?
OSGEMEOS: Quem somos nós
pra dizer quem deve morrer ou viver?
: Who are we to say who should live or die?
What is "pichação"?
OSGEMEOS : como chamamos
o graffiti aqui em São Paulo.
OSGEMEOS : It's how WE call
graffiti in Sao Paulo.
If you could do anything you want for one week what would
you do? There are two Israeli twin brothers, who look similar to you guys,
they were both separated at birth but ended up both doing comics on the
other sides of the planet, their work even looks similar. You guys have
a psychic link? Telepathy?
If you guys were Siamese twins you probably wouldn't want
to paint together?
: O que voce acha?
OSGEMEOS: What do you think?
If you guys could go anywhere you want where would you go to next?
: Conhecer mais o nosso pais.
OSGEMEOS : We would like
to travel more in our own country: Brazil.
Q: Tell me about “Tritrez”.
OSGEMEOS: Desculpe mais
nao podemos falar sobre isto.
OS GÊMEOS : Sorry
but we cannot talk about this.
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